Talk:Church Directory of Organizations and Leaders

Assistant Stake Clerk access to CDOL

I'm surprised by the removal of Alan's very recent addition to the list of leaders that have access to CDOL. I believe he's correct that Assistant Stake Clerks now indeed do have access. -- Mike Murray 19:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

It's been confirmed that Assistant Stake Clerks do not have access to CDOL. --Caleb 19:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I suppose not unless special allowance is made at the request of the Stake President? Thanks for your response. -- Mike Murray 20:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Assistant Stake Clerks are considered "Tier 2" positions, which means that they can be updated by MLS and are not verified by the CDOL team, so unless authorized by the Stake President, they will not have access. Thanks for keeping an eye on us! ;) --Caleb 20:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "It's been confirmed that Assistant Stake Clerks do not have access to CDOL." I have confirmed just the opposite. My stake president never made any specific provision for adding me (an assistant stake clerk) to CDOL. Yet shortly after I was added to MLS 3.0 as an assistant stake clerk, I both appeared in CDOL, and had access to CDOL. Previously I had no access to CDOL; shortly after the MLS 3.0 change, I had access. That seems like mighty good evidence that at least some assistant stake clerks do indeed have access to CDOL.

If indeed my having access is some sort of glitch, and not the new standard procedure, I would then ask the obvious question implied by the statement "unless authorized by the Stake President, they will not have access." What is the mechanism for a stake president providing such authorization? My stake president doesn't know how to do it, and I don't know how to do it. -- Aebrown 03:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

We are currently looking into this. Thanks for the patience. --Caleb 15:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It has come back from the CDOL team that the following have access to the Directory: Stake President, Counselors, Stake Executive Secretary, Stake Clerk, Stake Assistant Clerk (Finance, Membership, Technology Spec), District Presidents and Counselors, District Clerk, District Assistant Clerk (Finance, Membership, Technology Spec), District Executive Secretary, Bishops and Branch Presidents. This apparently changed with the implementation of MLS 3.0, and our team was not notified of the change until today. Thank you all for your patience. --Caleb 16:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Who can see callings?

In the 12:37pm 29 July 2009 revision, Calebpusey added the line to the features list:

• Ability to see all Standard Positions for units in the user's ward and stake

That doesn't match my experience, so I'm wondering why it was added. When I go into the CDOL, I can't see any Standard Positions for any ward in my stake or for the stake itself, with just a few exceptions: I can see the bishop of each ward, and at the stake level I can see the stake presidency, stake executive secretary, stake patriarch, and stake clerk and assistant clerks. But I can see that same level of information for every stake in the Church. There is no difference between what I can see for my ward or for any other ward in the Church -- just the bishop is listed.

Before the old CDOL site was taken down, I visited it and noticed that it had a lot of people listed in my ward; perhaps everyone with a Standard Position. I did not look at other units in my stake or the Church. But that is rather a moot point, since it doesn't really matter how the old site worked. What we need to document is how the current CDOL site works, and for me it doesn't show the Standard Positions.

However, I know that the CDOL shows people different data, depending on their permission level, which depends in part on their calling. Am I seeing what I see because I am an assistant stake clerk? Or is this the standard view for all ward and stake leaders and clerks? -- Aebrown 19:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Speaking as a stake clerk, when I access CDOL I can now see all stake officers by selecting the Show All Positions link which is displayed alongside the POSITIONS heading. Likewise for each unit in the stake, the same link will display all ward officers assigned to standard positions. In each case when the link is selected if first returns a list of collapsed groups with an arrow button pointing to the right. Selecting the button expands the groups and changes the button so that it points down. Each named officer has a similar button which when selected expands their record to show contact details. --Steve 20:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. But I have no such Show All Positions link. I'm guessing that is because you are a stake clerk, and I am an assistant stake clerk. If so, that would indicate that the unqualified statement about seeing all the Standard Positions should be edited to indicate that not everyone can see those callings. But I'm not sure who can see what. Does anyone know the answer, or do I just have to round up various leaders in my stake and ask them what they see? -- Aebrown 21:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback Alan and Steve, as you can see this has been a process. As of right now, the Show All Positions link is available at the stake and district level to the presidency and the stake or district clerk. The process of providing this information to assistant stake and district clerks is currently under review. Thanks again for your feedback on this and your patience, I will update the page with the correct information. --Caleb 17:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The rights for the callings listed have are now all correct as shown. --Jonesrk 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

FHC Directors access to CDOL

From talking with my local FHC Director it seems that he has limited access to CDOL, i.e. he can only view the details of other FHC Directors. Is this true in other locations? --Steve 12:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes that is correct, FHC Directors can only view the following organizations: Family History Center, Family History Service Center, Family History Training Center, Family History Center - Public Library. --Jonesrk 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I find information about members of another Stake Leadership, in their website? I am the Director of the FHC in South Bend, Indiana, and I signed into CDOL using my user name and password from my LDS Account. When I try to find a person in the Stake Leadership Directory, the Stake Executive Secretary, it won't let me view the information, because I am not a member of that Stake. What good is having CDOL, if persons in leadership positions can't access information from another Stake? -- Hoosier1 15:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

View current boundary maps

A recent edit talks about viewing current unit boundary maps. Would it be possible to elaborate on how this is achieved. Thanks --Steve 20:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

You should have a 'Unit Boundary Maps link' at the top of the organization page for stakes and districts, but I tried it with your rights and it is not there. I will have to do some more digging to find the problem. --Jonesrk 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I found the problem. In the current version of CDOL you had to have edit rights to the organization as well. In the next version (2.3.2) you will have that link available. --Jonesrk 20:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Ryan, for replying and working out what was happening. I will look forward to the new release. --Steve 21:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The new release has arrived with the Unit Boundary Maps option. Thanks --Steve 11:49, 16 December 2009 (UTC)