Change in Recording Sacrament Meeting Attendance

[russellhltn]

It will typically be much higher than half.

I'd expect the YSA headcount to be pretty much equal to the membership count in a single student ward. Is the per-head amount for YSA higher than general membership?

[jdlessley]

It will typically be much higher than half.

I'd expect the YSA headcount to be pretty much equal to the membership count in a single student ward. Is the per-head amount for YSA higher than general membership?

By general membership do you mean the head count at a sacrament meeting? That count includes anyone attending (members, members not in the unit, and non-members). The capitation amounts are 12 for sacrament meeting attendance and 6.25 for YSA 'attendance'.

For the quarterly budget allowance both the sacrament meeting attendance number and the YSA attendance number could, in theory, exceed the potential number for each category.

[russellhltn]

By general membership do you mean the head count at a sacrament meeting?

No. In theory, a YSA is counted twice. Once as a member and again as a YSA.

[lajackson]

In theory, a YSA is counted twice. Once as a member and again as a YSA.

This would be the same as a Primary child being counted as a member and also as a Primary child.
Or a youth being counted as a member and also as a Young Man or Young Woman.

In each case, there are not really two of them. They just count in two different categories.

[alejolores]

I have a quick question: how and where do we count the attendance of Stake leaders from our ward that do not attend our meetings because they are visiting other wards or missionaries serving missions. If we do not count them they lower our attendance percentage as they are existent in our records, but if we do count them they are counted twice as are they counted in the wards they attend also? In the records let's say of Elder's Quorum attendance the names of Stake visitors and full-time missionaries does not appear but we add them as visitors. What about for sacrament meeting? An what about "our" Stake leaders from our ward and "our" full-time missionaries?

[russellhltn]

General Handbook 33.5.1.1 - Attendance Reports

Sacrament Meeting.
Attendance at sacrament meeting is recorded each week by the ward clerk or an assistant ward clerk. The count is the number attending the meeting in-person or by streaming, including visitors. Ward members who are not present because they have another assignment or are attending another ward are counted in the ward they attend.

[jdlessley]

An what about "our" Stake leaders from our ward and "our" full-time missionaries?

Also from General Handbook, 33.5.1.1:

Sunday Quorum and Organization Meetings. Attendance is recorded each week by quorum and organization secretaries and advisers. Youth leaders may also assist in recording attendance. The count is the number attending the meeting in-person or by streaming, including visitors. Members who are serving in the Primary or as youth leaders within the ward are also included as attending. Members who are attending another ward are counted in the ward they attend.

The last sentence covers the situation for stake leaders and missionaries attending other wards.