Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
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Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Two bishopric counselors submitted the same electronic reimbursement request for a member in the ward, one at the beginning of the month of October and the other near the end of the month (he didn't think it had been submitted). Both we were approved and repaid electronically and I realized the mistake when going through the summaries. What's the best way to approach and rectify this error? The member is the Bishop's wife so she is aware of the mistake but we aren't sure what would be the best way to address it. One thought that has been floated by the Stake Clerk is to just have her donate the money back to the ward, but we don't know if the Church has a specific way to approach this type of accounting error.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Yes, send it back to the ward. But it will have to be by paper slip. You can put it back into the budget it came out of. Just like returning the leftover of an advanced payment.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
And include a note with the deposit batch and with one of the expenses that explains the situation and gives the reference numbers for the batch and the expense. That way the auditor can follow the paper trail and see that everything was corrected and matches up.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
How would you handle state sales tax in this situation? We had this happen to us, but we are unable to transfer funds into that category.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
See if you can go back to the expense which is being returned and try to edit the amounts assigned to each category and zero out the tax category. If that works, please post back here. We have one unit in our stake in NC which separates out state tax. I'd like to know in case they ever have this situation.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Yes, it worked! Thanks for the great idea.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Just had this happen in my branch, one reimbursement happened December 2024 and the duplicate was processed Jan 2nd of this year.
I’m new to being a clerk so I don’t know the systems all that well. Can somebody help walk me through the process of correcting this? Like in a very simplified step by step way?
The comment about “sending it back to the ward but by paper slip” didn’t make sense to me.
I was thinking she (primary president) could add the amount to her tithing and pay by check. This was we could put the amount back into the branch budget and document the extra reimbursement with the bank deposit records. At least that is what I think y’all were talking about with the “paper slip”.?
Help with this would be much appreciated…
I’m new to being a clerk so I don’t know the systems all that well. Can somebody help walk me through the process of correcting this? Like in a very simplified step by step way?
The comment about “sending it back to the ward but by paper slip” didn’t make sense to me.
I was thinking she (primary president) could add the amount to her tithing and pay by check. This was we could put the amount back into the branch budget and document the extra reimbursement with the bank deposit records. At least that is what I think y’all were talking about with the “paper slip”.?
Help with this would be much appreciated…
Last edited by Glenndio on Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Donations to tithing do not end up in the ward budget. It's sent to church headquarters and your budget will not be reimbursed.Glenndio wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:03 am I was thinking she (primary president) could add the amount to her tithing and pay by check. This was we could put the amount back into the branch budget and document the extra reimbursement with the bank deposit records. At least that is what I think y’all were talking about with the “paper slip”.?
There's no way to return the funds via online donations. So it has to be done "old school" via the process that was done before the internet: filling out a paper "tithing slip", stuff it in a gray envelope, and hand it to a bishopric member.Glenndio wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:03 am I’m new to being a clerk so I don’t know the systems all that well. Can somebody help walk me through the process of correcting this? Like in a very simplified step by step way?
The comment about “sending it back to the ward but by paper slip” didn’t make sense to me.
Depending on the age if your paper slips, she would put under "Budget" or use "Other - specify". She can pay via cash or check. When you process the "donation" you put it into Budget.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
There is an additional consideration for depositing budget expense overpayments (or duplicate payments) into the ward budget. Budget overpayments, advance payment returns, and contributions to pass through expense payments can be deposited into only five of the budget categories. Those are Administration, Miscellaneous, FSY, Young Men, and Young Women. Included in with these five default categories are all of the subcategories created under those five default categories. Any returns of duplicate payments, overpayments, or advance payment returns for expenses categories such as Activities, Elders Quorum, Relief Society, Primary, et cetera will have to be deposited into either the Administration or Miscellaneous categories and then moved by transfer into the appropriate budget category.
Note that when making a deposit into a budget category, the LCR > Donations / Enter Donations tab will show a drop-down list box in the Budget category line with the available budget categories mentioned above.
Note that when making a deposit into a budget category, the LCR > Donations / Enter Donations tab will show a drop-down list box in the Budget category line with the available budget categories mentioned above.
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Re: Electronic Reimbursement Duplicate
Okay, that’s what I thought y’all were referring to, but I’m glad I asked for clarification.
We only have two members in our branch who pay tithing the old-school way, so I don’t process many checks like that.
I’ll have her cut the check this week, print out the duplicate payment information, document the reason for the donation, and then staple everything together with the unit copy of the deposit slip.
Thank you for the help! Much appreciated. Being a new clerk is a bit overwhelming at times.
We only have two members in our branch who pay tithing the old-school way, so I don’t process many checks like that.
I’ll have her cut the check this week, print out the duplicate payment information, document the reason for the donation, and then staple everything together with the unit copy of the deposit slip.
Thank you for the help! Much appreciated. Being a new clerk is a bit overwhelming at times.